Continuation of Hate on Black Cordelias

My reply to the continuation of hate on a christian blog.

Follow the discussion here:
http://theblackcordelias.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/unveiled-women-turn-men-into-beasts/

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80% of America doesn't want the Iraq war, but we're there now.

You think Just because 3 Muslim Countries make people wear Burkhas, that somehow 1.3 billion Muslims believe it?

That's called ignorance, Governments do what they like and manipulate religion how they like, they do not represent religion.

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When was the last time a Protestant claimed that the Vatican had any leeway on their religion at all?

This is pure nonsense and "asimplesinner" is making futile points

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His points include:

1) Burkha's are mandatory because they are enforced in some Muslim countries

That somehow makes Iraq a lawful war, even though 80% of Americans are against it and it still hasn't come to an end, even though WE elected a Democratic CONGRESS in 2006.

The fact is simple, whether you believe it or not: The burkha is a traditional garment.

IN Iran and Saudi Arabia and other places, they TRADITIONALLY have warn it, that doesn't make it mandatory or even beneficial.

GOVERNMENTS DO NOT ( DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT) MAKE RELIGION, ARGUING THAT POINT IS LIKE TALKING TO A CHILD. YOU EITHER UNDERSTAND IT OR YOU DON'T.

Governments don't always reflect their people's wishes, as clearly demonstrated in IRAQ.

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2) He argues Christianity does not mandate head coverings for women.

He agrees that the Bible Mandates it, but NO ONE FOLLOWS THE BIBLE.

IGNORING A RULE DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES NOT EXIST.

The rule exists, women must cover their hair, Just because common day christians do not follow it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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AS FOR THE POPE:

You've been living in a box, or have not been watching the pope at all, because one of his strongest stances, during his papacy, was the healing of the wounds with Islam.

"The Vatican's 1999 declaration, "Memory and Reconciliation," subtitled "The Church and the Faults of the Past," which followed the 1992 apology for the persecution of the 17th-century astronomer and physicist Galileo, was a profoundly important act of grappling with the dark episodes of church history as part of a process the Holy See called "historical purification." In the litany of atrocities against Jews, Muslims, women, and ethnic groups, the Crusades were specifically mentioned. For the first time in church history, the Vatican, under John Paul II, apologized for what the Crusaders had done. Its impact was enormous, signifying a tectonic shift in Christian attitudes toward Islam. In guiding the church toward this repentance, Pope John Paul II allowed Muslims to re-connect with one of their own main theological figures-Jesus."

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Islam/2005/04/Bridge-Builder-To-The-Muslim-World.aspx?p=2

Not only did he do that, but he also kissed the Quran, http://tinyurl.com/5fdujo , a picture that i linked to above but you easily ignored.


Christianity does not demonize Islam, Neither did John Paul II, Neither does Jesus and he would never sanction such gruesome comments against it.

The question now remains, why do you?

You are clearly in the wrong when your own pope and prophet stand against you.

1.3 billion people wait for an apology, Slander and Liable are illegal in all democratic countries.

~~Phoenix

Stealing my Vote

I've received my voting ballot and i've only got one thing to say:

YOU WILL NOT STEAL MY VOTE!

The threats:
Vote Obama or McCain wins and destroys the country.

You will not steal my vote. Threats like this will not work against me.

I have lost faith in both parties and i feel the manipulators need to go.
Those in power, who have been in power, for decades, have had their time.
My generation has had enough and we will remove you from power, your reign is done.

I wrote about the manipulators in this article:
http://www.theephoenix.com/2008/07/two-party-system.html


It clearly outlines the lies and cheating of both parties and shows how both of them use us.

One vote is no vote, and i refuse to vote for the powerful party that will not bring change.

South Africa has the ANC, and there is a power struggle going on with the sacking of Tabo Mbeki.

We need that same power struggle going on now.

The debates were fake

The Debates were organized by a bi-partisan commission of democrats and republicans.

They tied the hands of the Moderators in these debates by refusing them to ask secondary questions that FORCED the candidates to EXPLAIN their positions.

Must see video about this:

Our topic is discussed 1 minute into the video.




These debates are a joke, Sarah Palin WOULDN'T EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!

And where were the third parties?

I remember them in 2004 and in 2000, but they're gone now...

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America: The way it should be, not the way it is.

I'm sorry America, but I see you as you should be, through the change that should happen, and that means i will not be voting for the manipulators in this election.
Those who control massive amounts of power and who do whatever they want with it.

I will be voting 3rd party and I will vote for those who will empower the middle class, lift up the poor, and make the rich pay their fair dues.

I'm voting for Energy independence and Health care.

I'm voting for the way things should be, Not how they are.


I will not be standing with you Mr. Obama, and for the next 4 years, I will take no blame in the mistakes you make or the lies you've told.

This is a foretelling of the manipulation to come and the problems that will remain unsolved.

America hasn't gone to sleep, it just has fallen and doesn't have the will to get up and fight.
When you choose to get up America, I will be standing there with you.

I'm voting 3rd Party, I'm voting for a second choice, I'm voting for the America we believe in.

2 parties, 1 vote, what are you voting for, the same party who did nothing for you last time?

Will you let them steal your vote away again?

~~Phoenix

Love thy Neighbor as thyself.

Hate among Christians for Muslims is very prevalent nowadays.

Here's a recent posting i replied to:

What do I hate? What hate do I hope begets more hate?

I hate that Islam…
…shrouds women and treats them like cattle.
…routinely murders the innocent.
…is responsible for a growing number of “honor killings”.
…has jihad.
…denies the divinity of Christ.

Another keen observer replied back with this:

I’m not a fan of Islam, either, but I think Theephoenix has a point here in terms of intolerance. By posting things like this you only add to misconceptions and prejudice. And how can you decry the “shrouding of women” when many of your own tradition insist that a woman “shroud” herself at mass?

A third person chimed in with:

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He quotes:

By posting things like this you only add to misconceptions and prejudice.

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What misconception am I presenting here exactly?

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He quotes

And how can you decry the “shrouding of women” when many of your own tradition insist that a woman “shroud” herself at mass?

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Are you kidding me? For the record I am not a mantilla-man myself, but if you think a lace mantilla/chapel veil like a doylee (called for by some trad Catholic under penalty of stoning, is it?) and the burkha or hijab are the same thing… Well you are a semantic fight looking for a place to happen. Give me a break.

I finally had to stem this tide of ignorance so i replied with this:

Actually the burkha is based off tradition, not religion.

I really shouldn't have to be mentioning this because I'm assuming I'm having a discussion with someone who knows all the facts.

The small headscarf is all that's required, By Islam and Christianity.

To say it oppresses women, is to say Christianity oppresses women, that's the point he was trying to make.

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As for prejudice being put forward, here it is, plain and simple, the points Pope John Paul II would never say against Islam:

1)We oppress women through headscarf (If we do, Christianity does as well)

2) Routinely murder the innocent (Remember the crusades or Hitler?)

3) Is responsible for honor killings? (Christianity is too till this very day, but it was most prevalent in the 17th and 18th centuries; attending history class was very important)

4) Has Jihad (This just means "struggles to be overcome something", obviously I'm not discoursing with a person well versed in Islam. Again this does not mean war, this has been reiterated many times and a well versed person would already know it.)

5) Denies the Divinity of christ (The majority of the world is guilty of this... what's your point, we're not all christian, but that doesn't mean you can't be tolerant?)

Treat thy neighbor as thyself.

Where is the word christian in there?

Jesus would never sanction these comments, John Paul II would never sanction these comments, and the followers of such men should equally never sanction such hateful comments.

This is hate, ignorance, and arrogance at it's peak.

We gain peace through understanding.

Love thy Neighbor as thyself.

At least listen to your God, if you won't listen to mine.

~~Theephoenix

p.s: You can follow the whole conversation here:
http://theblackcordelias.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/unveiled-women-turn-men-into-beasts/

That's where this whole event took place.

What would Jesus bomb?

I don't blame the American people for the blunder of the last 8 years.

I don't blame them for the financial crisis we're living in now.

I don't blame them for electing bush once(They elected gore the other time by half a million votes).

I blame the media.

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Religion Morality and Media

Religion is all about morality, freedom all about expression, and media all about the transfer of information.


These three act as a balance and help create a harmony in a country. After all what is true freedom without a moral and just people? What is true religion without the freedom to express it and the ability to reach the masses? What is media without a moral and free society?


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Who failed us?

Someone did fail us for the past 8 years, someone who has been keeping all their dirty little secrets hidden and sharing false propaganda.

Someone has been inflating the prices of homes and booming the stock market while the ordinary man and women lives no better.

Someone has hidden the very fabric of any free and just society, which is the accountability of it's leaders in power.


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The media has the christian conservatives bombing Iraq.

The media brought 70% approval for the war when it was filled with lies.

The media lost 70% approval for the war once those lies were found.

There exists a free media, finding it is the hard part.

After finally having my eyes opened I see the media for all it is worth.

About half a year now without cable, I can finally see with unfiltered eyes and mind.

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Stopping the Addiction


I encourage everyone to do the same as I have. Cut Cable, increase time with your family, and succeed in every goal you've set out to accomplish.

Once you're on the outside looking in, you see the manipulation of it all.

You see the chess moves made about Georgia and Russia, you see the half truths about Iraq and Iran, and you see the greed that stems from it all.


The traditional media has left us, they do not inform and they do not hold people to account for their sins.

All we can do now is wonder, how in the world did the media get christians to ask themselves what Jesus would bomb?

If they can do that, imagine what worse they can do.

~~Phoenix

Religion Created by man

Someone on youtube wrote this... yes i can't believe i'm actually quoting someone from there as if they have any merit at all, but i thought we'd raise the point anyways:

People, people...
Religion was something invented to ease the minds of humans who could not explain happenings like weather and outer space. Now that we can do that all scientifically it kinda takes religion out of the picture, Adam and Eve or evolution? I'd have to say there is much more evidence of us crawling out of the ocean billions year ago than Adam and Eve having children and somehow manifesting the billions of people of different races now walking the planet.
No religion, science.

Rather than going on with a very long and tedious response about the inefficiency of mutation and how it only removes, not adds to genetic code, i wrote this small response:

Why waste time fighting against religion when the only life you'll ever get is slowly slipping away.

Btw if you do turn out doing something amazing for humanity, we won't remember it in 1,000 years.

In summary, your life was in vain, as says you, not me.

And science, including cell biology, has disproven the theory of spontaneous generation, more than a century ago.

We did not come from scum from the ocean, that's not what i say, that's what cell biology says and has said for 100 years.

Spontaneous generation, or abiogenesis, are two words for the same thing, organic substances begotten from inorganic ones, which has never been observed or tested.

Anyone who believes in it, is a believer, someone of faith, not someone of science.

Science works within the realms of observation and experiments, anything else is just speculation and faith.

Sounds like religion may have slowly infiltrated science after all.

~~Phoenix

Some Cops and their Pride

Everyone knows about this very famous video by now, it's about a kid being tazed because he was hard to handle at a forum and was being disruptive.

Here were my comments to the fellow youtubers about that video:

If anyone here is actually bothering to listen to the kid:

He says at one point, " Can you let me go? I'll walk out of here if you let me go. Just let me go" @ 1:20

Instead the cops pin him down, continue to scream at him and threaten him with a taze, because they INSIST on arresting him...

Insist on arresting him

Insist on arresting him

Because their pride got a little bent.

Cops need to grow up and stop acting like children, a man would have let him get up and go like he'd asked.

I made those comments because the theme of the previous comments seemed to be authoritarian and negative because the kid seemed to have broken the rules of the forum or been unruly.

But the second he gave in, the second he said he'd leave, he wasn't given that chance and the officers truly abused their power.

It wasn't about stopping the kid anymore, it was about fixing their dented pride, something a lot of humans have problems with.

Fixing your pride shouldn't come at the expense of someone else's freedom, liberty, or honor, especially if you're given the legal right to.

It's why older siblings sacrifice for the younger ones, take hard blows to their pride, and suffer consequences, so that the younger siblings can learn and live in peace.

In this case, the older sibling abused his power and decided to punish the confused younger sibling who was just making a ruckus, even after the younger sibling admitted defeat.

~~Phoenix

(p.s: Sorry about the italics, for some reason my browser was having problems with blogger, and it wouldn't let me take off the italics... oh well as long as it's still legible.)

Unconditional Intervention for Israel

Intervention works in certain situations where it is our duty as a citizen of the world to save our fellow human beings.

We have lost touch with that, and now we intervene for the sake of intervening.



The video above shows our stance when it comes to Israel and how we will defend it for no good reason.

For some reason Israel is always right and everyone else (Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, etc) is always wrong.

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Rhetoric:

Not only do we intervene when unnecessary, we rebuke other interventions that actually are being done for good reasons.

Take the Georgia - South Ossetia war.

Georgia attacks south ossetia to topple it's democratically elected government and force it to rejoin with Georgia.

After thousands being killed, Russia comes in and stops the war, and protects South Ossetia from the invasion.

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Our response, to rebuke and punish Russia...

And for what? Protecting South Ossetia?

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I'm all for intervention when it's needed, like WW1 and WW2, to stop Hitler.

But we're not intervening where we should now(Somalia, Sudan, North Korea, Palestine, China, etc)

And we're starting conflicts where we shouldn't (Iran, Georgia, Russia, etc)

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Here's the consequence of intervention where it isn't needed:




I hope America wakes up before another attack.

I blame the media for helping lull Americans to sleep and spinning propaganda day and night.

Media reform is desperately needed in times like these, where the truth is being covered up 24 hours a day and 7 days a week.

~~Phoenix